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Post by Memphremagog on Mar 17, 2005 9:34:08 GMT -5
Happy St. Patrick's Day to everyone on board!
I would most highly recommend Montague Summers' two volume set, THE VAMPIRE: HIS KITH AND KIN and THE VAMPIRE IN EUROPE. Together these two books cover the subject of the vampire very thoroughly. The first one deals with the vampire mainly from a folkloric view while the second is more historical.
THE VAMPIRE: HIS KITH AND KIN covers the whole world and has vampire and similar folkloric anecdotes. It deals with the ghostly undead from Egypt and Sumeria to Thailand, from India to Japan, from America to the Philippines. It is amazing how many different vampires and related legends there are in human folklore!
THE VAMPIRE IN EUROPE deals almost exclusively with the folklore and especially the history of the vampire in Europe. All the areas are covered: England and Scotland to Russia and the Ukraine, Ireland and Iceland to Italy and Greece, and so on. This is the first book I ever read on vampirism after Dracula and when I read the account of Arnold Paole for the very first time, as I sat alone at home on my parent's farm in western Minnesota during a moonless night, it literally sent an icy cold shiver up and down my spine and made my hair stand up like a porcupine!
Anyway, there are several other books one could read, but Montague Summers works are the ones I started with way back in 1969 and have re-read, especially THE VAMPIRE IN EUROPE, many times since.
PAX and 'ERIN GO BRAUGH!
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Post by oakcarver5 on Mar 17, 2005 9:46:47 GMT -5
Sorry,i completely forgot,(probably because i dont drink guinness!) HAPPY SAINT PATRICKS DAY to vampirologist,memph,our new member,juusi,and to the rest of the management & members,best wishes,oak carver.
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Post by Vampirologist on Mar 17, 2005 12:18:04 GMT -5
Today is also the feast of St Joseph of Arimathea who is even more important in the canon of saints to the British Church; especially Bishop Manchester's Ecclesia Apostolica Jesu Christi. Much is talked about St Joseph of Arimathea in The Grail Church. Link: wwwholygrail-church.fsnet.co.uk/Grail%20Church%20Book.htm |
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Post by oakcarver5 on Mar 17, 2005 12:54:57 GMT -5
Thankyou for reminding us vampirologist,HAPPY ST.JOSEPH OF ARIMATHEAS DAY to you all.Many years ago,my mother & sister went to stay for a while at glastonbury,whilst there they learnt all about st.joseph and visited the holy well there and saw the tree that grew from st.josephs staff (which i believe),also whilst in the grounds of glastonbury abbey ruins,they were invited to say prayers with a priest,which was and still is,a most memorable occasion for both of them.Incidentally vampirologist,is it possible for you to give me the location of the holy grail church please?,yours sincerely,oak carver.
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Post by Vampirologist on Mar 18, 2005 7:54:54 GMT -5
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Post by Juusi on Mar 18, 2005 10:29:41 GMT -5
Hello people .
The name of the blood creature in finland is perkele and attacks near your christamas time which is hyvaa youloua for us.
It drinks blood from small children and reindeer and rapes women in the sleep.
It is very frightening and a nasty thing which we keep away with a bowl of blood sausage at night.
Charles edward wace is the name on the tomb in the vampire natural book of history and is very clear picture to see the name of the tomb.
I will look when i get to london town.
Juusi
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Post by oakcarver5 on Mar 18, 2005 11:42:38 GMT -5
Dear vampirologist,thankyou for the direction of THE GRAIL CHURCH,i find it all very fascinating,i hope some of the other members feel the same,regards,oak carver.
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Post by oakcarver5 on Mar 18, 2005 11:48:28 GMT -5
Hi juusi,thanks for the info on the perkele,do you have a description of the perkele?,and when blood sausage is left out to ward it off does it eat it?,Im still having problems with the location of the tomb bearing the name CHARLES EDWARD WACE are you reffering to the tomb in which +bishop manchester encountered the highgate vampire?,regards,oak carver.
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Post by Vampirologist on Mar 18, 2005 13:31:08 GMT -5
Anyone who has a copy of THE HIGHGATE VAMPIRE will be aware of what significance the Wace mausoleum played in the case. A photograph of the sealed Wace tomb can be found on page 91 of the aforementioned book. There is another excellent image of the vault at the webpage found via the following link: www.gothicpress.freeserve.co.uk/President%20&%20Founder.htm |
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Post by Memphremagog on Mar 18, 2005 20:10:57 GMT -5
I assumed that the Wace mausoleum was the most convenient one for the Highgate Vampire. This creature used whatever tombs or mausoleums were available for two reasons, 1. convenience of location, and 2. difficulty in attaining easy access by people who had a mind to exorcise and destroy it (like Sean Manchester).
This creature may have had other coffins located in numerous places and was playing a kind of shell game with those who wanted it destroyed. There may have been other coffins located elsewhere but this particular monster was found at home in the Wace mausoleum and later again in the subterranean pathways beneath the house where it eventually was rediscovered by Sean Manchester and his friends and effectively exorcised and destroyed.
I don't remember ever asking this question before so pardon me if I did somewhere else - - did the Highgate Vampire ever at any time speak or attempt communication with those who were fighting it? Was there ever any "dialogue" so to speak. I know it sort of communicated with its flaming red eyes by staring at its attackers both times it was encountered in its casket, but did it ever speak to anyone? I don't recall having read it in THE HIGHGATE VAMPIRE anywhere.
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Post by Juusi on Mar 19, 2005 6:22:49 GMT -5
Terve my freinds.
The monster certainly eats the bowl of sausage , but i think that lynx or wolf eats it first much like foxes in kent do to chickens and dustbins.
The perkele or devil likes any blood but prefers to take blood of babies and rapes women in their sleeping time,but is scared off by loud noises and hammers.
I lived near rovaniemi and often went to russian border near karelia and the wolves run wild.
It is not hard to believe that the perkele drinks the blood and rapes the animals and women of their blood.
When i get to highgate cemetary, shall i bring with me a stake and wait till dawn run in quick and poke it with a sharpened stick to stop vampirism.
good luck
Juusi
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Post by oakcarver5 on Mar 19, 2005 11:15:02 GMT -5
Hi all, I found one entry on the latter day saints ancestry site, in the 1881 cencus :- charles.e.wace,age 30,solicitor in practice,shrewsbury. On ancestry.com i found another in shrewsbury,but still have some more to look at,im not suppossing that wace could have been the vampire,but thought it worth looking for info on him anyway,regards,oak carver.
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Post by Vampirologist on Mar 20, 2005 3:49:13 GMT -5
Memphremagog is absolutely correct in regard to the Highgate Vampire using the Wace tomb for convenience and seclusion.
The witness reports, as far as I am aware, only tell of the vampire communicating telepathically and also in dreams. Red eyes had little to do with it, but those who saw those flaming orbs felt their control and power slip away.
There are various reports, especially in the early days of the investigation, of a booming voice emitting from within Highgate Cemetery. There is the case reported in the Hampstead & Highgate Express of the name "Hugo" being heard reverberating from within the walls of the graveyard late at night. It was later realised that this might not have been a name, but the command "You go!" (as observed in CARMEL, the novel loosely based on the Highgate Vampire case).
There are also the unearthly, subterranean booming sounds that echoed deeply in the Circle of Lebanon within the heart of the cemetery at the scene of what trasnpired to be the vampire's tomb.
But conversation? Did anyone who engaged in such conversation live to tell the tale ... ?
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Post by Juusi on Mar 21, 2005 6:07:51 GMT -5
Terve freinds.
The perkele looks sometimes like a tall dark man with bright eyes and often times he is like a small creature with pointed ears and wrinkled brown face with brown and green rainments on the body and he lives in dark woodland areas full up with solitude and eerieness.
Perkele is mostly around in winter near hyvaa youloua or your christmas time.
He cannot be destroyed unless a laapi shaman does combat with the monster to free the souls of the murdered.
Hope this helps you lots
Juusi
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Post by Juusi on Mar 21, 2005 6:31:24 GMT -5
Hyvaa paivaa.
One extra thing about the perkele is that it drinks the blood of unshriven children and children of heathens not beliving in our jesus.
Juusi
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