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Post by Vampirologist on May 4, 2004 6:38:58 GMT -5
If you are a baptised Christian you should not feel apprehensive approaching any priest or minister. But I fully understood why you might in view of the liberalisation and secularisation of many of today's churches.
However, what makes you feel that you have encountered a vampire?
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Post by Seeker on May 5, 2004 4:22:53 GMT -5
Well I want you to know that I am not sure, before I start explaining. You know that feeling where your hair stands on end and every instinct you have tells you to run. I have a friend who passed away when he was younger. I visit his grave every year. This year I went to say a prayer and leave a trinket like I do every year, however it was different. I went in the evening I went not at dark but around sundown. I was saying my prayer and was overcome all of a sudden with fear. Not normal fear but fear enough to make me want to flee the site at once. My hair stood on end and I felt cold all at once. Every instinct I had told me to run, but I was too scared to move. I saw a figure in the distance, barely visible. It seemed to be staying just out of range for me to see it clearly. This went on for 10 or so minuets and then I brought myself to stand up and leave. I felt so threatened. Almost to the point where I was scared that I was going to die.
Also Vampires are kind of and odd subject, I don't know how to ask a priest what I should do without sounding like a lunatic.
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Post by Vampirologist on May 5, 2004 4:55:59 GMT -5
What you saw might or might not have been a malevolent entity, but why do you suppose it was particularly vampiric or predatory?
Nothing so far described points to a vampire as such.
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Post by Memphremagog on May 7, 2004 14:06:48 GMT -5
Whatever the Seeker saw may or may not have been malefic or vampiric, but it sounds like it practically scared the Seeker to death! Whenever one feels the presence of pure, raw, unadulterated evil (as I have on a couple of occasions), one must take care to protect oneself bodily and spiritually. It is too dangerous a risk to just blow it off as nothing! Evil is unfortunately all too real in this fallen world. I don't blame the Seeker for being exttremely converned and cautious.
Peace, Memphremagog
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Post by Vampirologist on May 8, 2004 4:39:16 GMT -5
I agree with the previous observation, but there is nothing in the description so far offered by Seeker to identify the phenomenon as being a vampire.
I am merely trying to discover why it is believed that a vampire, as opposed to something else (perhaps some other form of demonic entity), was what Seeker experienced.
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Post by Memphremagog on May 8, 2004 10:26:18 GMT -5
The problem here is that it is oft times diffucult to positively identify any phenomenon as malefic until it is too late! May I refer the reader to page 49 of THE HIGHGATE VAMPIRE, 1991 edition. Referring to Thomas O'Loughlin and his fiancee Stella returning home via Swains Lane after visiting a local pub . . . "Their route took them down Swains Lane, near the dreaded north gate of the graveyard. They were walking casually, hand in hand, when suddenly Stella screamed at the top of her voice. Her nightmare shrieks still pierced the air as Thomas turned to discover the cause. Something was standing behind the iron railings of the gate, just a short distance from where they now stood frozen to the ground, and upon its face was an expression of basilisk horror."
At that point in time no one was fully certain of the vampiric nature of the entity behind the gate. It later, upon further investigation by Sean Manchester and others proved to be a vampire. When Thomas and Stella first encountered it, it did nothing more that scare the wits out of them, much the same as the Seeker's experience. I hope no vampire or demon is involved here and probably none is. But I would suggest to the Seeker to ask someone to at least check it out, after all who knows for sure? But don't just go off half-thingyed like that imbecile Farrant did and bring insult and derision upon yourself! If you decide to do nothing, that's fine too. But if and when you return to that cemetery do so in the full blaze of the sun and with friends as company. Pax, Memphremagog
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Post by Vampirologist on May 9, 2004 4:52:01 GMT -5
The same account also makes the point that the phenomenon at Highgate was not at first identified as being a vampire, but, as the evidence mounted, it became increasingly difficult to reach any other conclusion. Thomas and Stella's experience on itw own would not necessarily indicate a vampire. It was their experience coupled with many other sightings and some attacks that led the investigation to the door of a vampire.
NB: Please do not identify persons likely to be hostile, as such posts will have to be deleted. Use initials or pseudonyms if absolutely necessary, but not real names.
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Post by Seeker on May 19, 2004 3:40:27 GMT -5
Like I said in my previous post, I do not know what I encountered that day at the cemetary. I may have been a bit presumptious in calling a vampire. However the fact still remains that I was overcome with paralyzing fear. I am not one that scares easy, but what I felt was not like someone afraid of flying or snakes. It was indescribable what I felt that day. Evil is the only word that comes to mind. I also feel like it is my obligation to find someone that can make an accurate judgement on what is going on. I cannot simply dismiss it, because if it is a malevolent presence then it may hurt someone.
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Post by Vampirologist on May 19, 2004 5:24:46 GMT -5
You should certainly not dismiss what you experienced. There is just insufficient information to make a valued judgement of any sort.
What might be advisable is to make a detailed report of your experience and offer it to a trusted local specialist in these matters.
Have you been back, or are you thinking of returning to the place where the evil manifestation occurred?
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